Luiten Says LIV Returnees Should Lose Their Rights and Go Through Q School
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The argument over LIV’s collapse has split into two questions. Rory McIlroy answered the first one on Tuesday: should the players be allowed back at all? He said yes. Joost Luiten is fighting over the second question, the one that decides who actually loses a job: on what terms, and at whose expense?
What exactly is Luiten demanding?
A hard road back, with three specific tolls. Speaking to Ben Parsons of Today’s Golfer, the six-time DP World Tour winner said the tour should make it harder for LIV players to return, arguing they made their decision to chase the money four years ago and should now deal with the consequences, GOLF.com reports. His programme: a player who gave up his membership should lose all his exemption rights with it, sponsor invites should stop flowing to returnees, and anyone who thinks he is good enough should prove it at Q School against the players trying to earn a place the ordinary way.
Why are invites the sharpest part of the complaint?
Because that is where the cost lands on named individuals rather than on an abstract field. Luiten’s point is arithmetic. There is a fixed number of invitations in any tournament. One handed to a returning LIV name is one that cannot go to a young player coming through, or to a veteran at Luiten’s end of the field applying for a start he will not get, GOLF.com reports. At 40, in his 16th straight full season and sitting 67th in the Race to Dubai, Irish Golfer notes, Luiten is precisely the profile of player a star’s return squeezes, which is why his intervention reads less like punditry and more like a workforce complaint.
How easy is the return path he is attacking?
Easier in Europe than in America, and unevenly easy at that. The DP World Tour has told LIV 2.0 players to choose: sign for the relaunch and lose 2027 membership and Ryder Cup eligibility, or walk away from LIV and come back with outstanding fines settled, GOLF.com reports. The PGA Tour route, by contrast, runs through a one-year ban and then qualifying like anyone else. And the returning class is not uniform. Jon Rahm and David Puig never surrendered their DP World Tour membership and remain in good standing. Others, among them Ian Poulter and Lee Westwood, resigned theirs and would rebuild status through categories such as the Legends route, FOGOLF and Irish Golfer report. Luiten’s rule is aimed squarely at that second group: the rights, he says, should have died with the resignation.
How does this sit alongside what McIlroy said in the same city?
As the two poles of a membership vote that has not happened yet. McIlroy and Luiten are both in Delhi this week and both accept the tours’ right to set the rules. From there they diverge. McIlroy, whose own place is untouchable, argued for the business case: the returners lift revenues for everyone and said he would vote yes, while also backing the DP World Tour’s right on Wednesday to change its regulations to protect its business, GOLF.com reports. Xander Schauffele has described the PGA Tour membership as split four ways over Rahm’s return alone. Luiten is what one of those ways sounds like at full volume: not a refusal to let anyone back, but a refusal to let them back at the front of the queue.
What has the other side of the argument said?
A partial concession from a player living the return. Patrick Reed, whose full DP World Tour schedule has put him in Race to Dubai contention, said he can see how some players would have an issue with guys coming over and playing only the big events, and noted his own schedule has run from big events to small ones, EssentiallySports reports. Sergio Garcia has targeted a 2027 Ryder Cup return through the same European route, and Rahm has already rejected LIV 2.0 in the bankruptcy court. Reed’s answer covers Luiten’s effort complaint, up to a point. It does not touch the invites complaint, which is about starts a loyal player never gets the chance to convert into effort at all.
What happens next?
The argument gets a headcount on October 25, the LIV 2.0 signing deadline working through the bankruptcy process. Every star who declines becomes a live case of the return path being used, and every invite list published for a 2027 event will show whose version of fairness the tour is running. Luiten has no vote that counts more than McIlroy’s. He has something McIlroy does not: a career that sits exactly where the returning players would land.
Frequently asked questions
What has Joost Luiten said about LIV players returning?+
That the DP World Tour is making it far too easy. Luiten told Today's Golfer the tour should make it harder for LIV players to come back, because they chose the money four years ago and now want to return as if nothing happened, GOLF.com reports. He wants the path to run through Q School, not through restored membership rights.
What does Luiten want changed about the return path?+
Three things, as he set them out in the interview. Players who resigned their membership should lose their exemption rights with it, sponsor invites should go to young talent rather than returnees, and anyone who wants a card back should earn it at Q School against the players who never left, GOLF.com and Irish Golfer report.
How does the DP World Tour return actually work now?+
Far more simply than Luiten wants. A LIV player who does not sign for LIV 2.0 can take up DP World Tour membership for 2027 provided outstanding fines are paid, GOLF.com reports. Some never gave their membership up: Jon Rahm and David Puig remain members in good standing, while others who resigned would come back through categories such as the Legends route, FOGOLF reports.
Why does this hit Luiten personally?+
Because invites and field places are finite, and he is the kind of player who feels it. Luiten is 40, in his 16th consecutive full season on the tour and 67th in the Race to Dubai standings, GOLF.com and Irish Golfer report. Every invitation handed to a returning star is one that cannot go to a player at his end of the field or to a young player coming through.
How does this differ from what Rory McIlroy said?+
Almost completely in tone, though both men start from the tour's right to set its rules. McIlroy told a Bloomberg forum on Tuesday he would vote to welcome LIV players back to the PGA Tour as good for business, and on Wednesday he backed the DP World Tour's right to change its regulations to protect its business, GOLF.com reports. Luiten is arguing about the price of the ticket back, and wants it set high.
What has a returning player said in response?+
Patrick Reed, who is playing a full DP World Tour schedule, said he can see why some players would have an issue with returnees who only show up for the big events, and pointed out that he has played everything from big events to small ones since coming back, EssentiallySports reports. Reed is in contention for the Race to Dubai title, which is exactly the outcome Luiten's argument is aimed at.
What happens next in the LIV return argument?+
The October 25 LIV 2.0 signing deadline is the next hard date, and every player who declines it becomes a test case for the return path Luiten is attacking. After that, the argument moves to the tours themselves: whether invites, categories and exemption rights for 2027 are handed out as the current rules allow, or tightened in the way Luiten wants.
Sources
- GOLF.com: Pro slams LIV players trying to make DP World Tour return (the Today's Golfer interview, the invites and Q School arguments, the PGA Tour's harder path and McIlroy's Wednesday comments)
- Irish Golfer: Luiten has a point, but the DP World Tour is a business (the 16-season career context, the resigned-membership cases of Westwood and Poulter and the exemption-rights argument)
- FOGOLF: DP World Tour star blasts surprise LIV Golf decision (the membership categories, the players still in good standing and the Q School line)
- Fox Sports Australia: McIlroy criticises rebel league again, says he would welcome players back (the same-week contrast with McIlroy's position in Delhi)
- Compleat Golfer: Luiten upset LIV Golf players can return (an independent account of the interview and the Q School suggestion)
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