Hamlin Says Herbst's Talladega Hit Would End His Career on the Spot
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Denny Hamlin did not soften it. Asked about the Talladega wreck that flipped his rival and battered his own driver, the 23XI Racing co-owner said Riley Herbst took a hit so brutal that one like it would end his own career on the spot. Herbst walked away, wrist wrapped, but the checks are not over, and Martinsville is now a medical question as well as a championship one.
What did Hamlin actually say?
He said it on his Actions Detrimental podcast, with co-host Jared Allen, the day after the race. Athlon reports Hamlin described Herbst’s hit as brutal, twice over, and said he cannot imagine hitting the wall the way Herbst did. The line that travelled was the next one: his retirement would become effective immediately if he took a hit like that. That is not a retirement announcement. It is a veteran driver measuring a younger driver’s crash against his own limits, and finding it beyond them.
Hamlin also put the crash in its proper order. Yahoo’s syndicated report quotes him saying he can see why Logano would be the highlight, before insisting Herbst’s hit was the brutal one. That distinction matters, because the television pictures did the opposite: Logano upside down, sliding on his roof, filled the replays, while Herbst’s second impact, into the inside wall after bouncing across the track, was harder to follow in real time.
How did the wreck unfold?
It started with five laps left in the YellaWood 500, in the tri-oval at Talladega. Carson Hocevar bumped Joey Logano’s No. 22 Ford, Logano spun into the outside wall, and Chase Briscoe’s arrival sent the Ford airborne, where it slid on its roof for nearly 20 seconds. Herbst, in the No. 35 Toyota, was collected in the chain reaction: he hit the outside wall with the right side of his car, then bounced across the track and struck the inside wall nearly head-on, apparently with no brakes, before coming to rest.
Joey Logano’s own account of sliding upside down focused on relief, on fuel leaking while he sat roof-down, and on being happy to be alive. Herbst’s story is different, and quieter: two wall hits, a wrapped wrist, and a week of checks. The Daytona Beach News-Journal, revisiting the wreck on Tuesday, credits the HANS device and the SAFER barrier with Herbst’s ability to walk away at all, and notes that without them, racing at Martinsville would be doubtful at minimum.
What is Herbst’s injury situation?
Unconfirmed, beyond the wrist. Athlon reports Hamlin said Herbst has bumps and bruises, his wrist is not great, and he will be checked out during the week. Herbst left the infield care centre with his left wrist wrapped after being evaluated and released, and no specific diagnosis has been publicly confirmed. His availability for Martinsville therefore remains pending, which is the practical consequence of Hamlin’s podcast update: 23XI cannot yet say whether its driver races on Sunday.
There is also context that makes caution sensible. Athlon notes Herbst suffered a concussion earlier this season after a crash at New Hampshire, which adds a reason to take a heavy double impact seriously even when the driver walks away and jokes afterwards. Herbst himself, speaking after the race, said he was okay and thanked 23XI and Toyota, quoting his father’s line about being dumb and tough. That is reassurance, not a medical clearance, and Hamlin’s update treats it that way.
Why does Hamlin’s own back matter here?
Because he was already hurting when he made the comparison. Yahoo’s report notes Hamlin said he could hardly move on Monday because he pulled his back the day before the race, while lifting his son, Dru, out of a gap between a doorway and the steps. He still finished eighth at Talladega, and still moved up in the championship standings, which makes his comment about Herbst’s hit less abstract: a driver who raced with a pulled back is saying this particular hit was beyond what he would accept.
It also explains the tone of the podcast. Hamlin was not speaking as a neutral analyst. He co-owns 23XI, he employs Herbst, and he watched his driver’s car take two wall hits while the cameras followed Logano’s roof slide. His blunt line about retirement is, in that light, a team owner telling the sport what his driver went through, in terms every fan understands.
What does Talladega do to the championship?
It helps Hamlin and hurts him at the same time. The News-Journal notes Hamlin moved from fourth to second in the Chase after Talladega, but his deficit to Kyle Larson, whose Talladega win survived a yellow-line argument, grew from 31 points to 73. Christopher Bell and Chase Briscoe sit right behind Hamlin, with 79 points covering the top four, which means Martinsville is a near-must-win weekend for the chasers. Hamlin’s earlier admission about defying a pit call at Las Vegas showed the same championship pressure from a different angle: every strategic call now carries a points cost he cannot afford.
For Herbst, the championship is not the question. The question is whether the wrist checks clear him for Martinsville on November 1, and whether a driver who took one of the biggest hits in the current car, in Hamlin’s words, is ready to do it again six days later. That answer will come from the medical checks, not from the podcast, and Hamlin was careful not to pre-empt it.
What happens next?
The wrist checks come first, then the Martinsville entry. If Herbst is cleared, he races with a story already written about him; if he is not, 23XI faces a replacement decision with a championship-contending co-owner watching from the No. 11 car. Either way, Hamlin’s line will follow Herbst to Martinsville: a hit so hard that a 45-year-old champion said it would end him on the spot, taken by a 27-year-old who walked away, wrist wrapped, and joked about being tough.
Frequently asked questions
What did Denny Hamlin say about Riley Herbst's crash?+
Hamlin said on his Actions Detrimental podcast that Herbst's hit was brutal, twice over, and that he cannot imagine taking a wall hit like Herbst did. He added that his own retirement would become effective immediately if he took one hit like that, a line that has travelled because it came from a 45-year-old driver still chasing a championship.
How did Herbst crash at Talladega?+
With five laps left in the YellaWood 500, Joey Logano's Ford spun after a bump from Carson Hocevar, hit the outside wall and flipped when Chase Briscoe arrived. Herbst, collected in the chain reaction, hit the outside wall with the right side of his Toyota, bounced across the track and struck the inside wall nearly head-on, apparently with no brakes.
What is Herbst's injury situation?+
Hamlin said Herbst has bumps and bruises and his wrist is not great, so he will be checked out during the week, Athlon reports. Herbst left the infield care centre with his left wrist wrapped after being evaluated and released, and no specific diagnosis has been publicly confirmed. His availability for Martinsville therefore remains pending.
Why did Logano get the attention first?+
Logano's car flipped onto its roof and slid down the frontstretch for nearly 20 seconds, which dominated the replays, while Herbst's second hit into the inside wall was harder to see in real time. Hamlin said he can see why Logano would be the highlight, but argued Herbst's hit was the brutal one, and that distinction is the point of his podcast comments.
What did Herbst say himself after the crash?+
Herbst said he was okay and thanked 23XI Racing and Toyota for their support, Athlon reports, quoting his father's line that if you are going to be dumb, you had better be tough. He also believed he could contend toward the end of the race before getting caught in the wreck, which makes the lost opportunity part of the story as well.
What else did Hamlin reveal on the podcast?+
Hamlin said he could hardly move on Monday because he pulled his back the day before the race while lifting his son, Dru, out of a gap between a doorway and the steps. He finished eighth at Talladega despite that back problem, which gives his comment about Herbst's hit a personal edge: he was already hurting before the green flag.
What happens at Martinsville?+
The Cup Series heads to Martinsville Speedway for the Xfinity 500 on November 1, and Herbst's participation depends on the wrist checks Hamlin described. Hamlin moved from fourth to second in the Chase after Talladega, but his deficit to Kyle Larson grew from 31 to 73 points, so Martinsville matters for both men for different reasons.
Is this the same crash as the Logano flip story?+
Yes, it is the same Lap 183 wreck, but a different angle on it. SportsMonkie covered Logano's roof-down slide and his uninjured exit on Monday; this article covers what Hamlin said afterwards about his own driver's hit, Herbst's wrist, and the medical checks still to come before Martinsville.
Sources
- Athlon Sports: Denny Hamlin issues medical update on NASCAR driver injured in Talladega crash (the wrist checks, the bumps and bruises, the retirement line, the New Hampshire concussion)
- Yahoo Sports via syndication: NASCAR's Denny Hamlin delivers blunt response to scary Talladega crash (the podcast quotes, the back injury lifting his son, the Hocevar bump, the Larson win)
- Daytona Beach News-Journal: NASCAR mayhem at Talladega (the Herbst second-hit sequence, the HANS and SAFER credit, Hamlin's Chase deficit growing to 73 points)
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